Clearly the idea of releasing the audio and a couple second of video hasn't paid off. Just based on Mindhunters (the book) a lot of these guys are either in relationships or living with family, so there's a good chance someone will be able to identify a phrase, recognize something BG may have given them from the scene, or know someone with a mild fetish that could escalate into something found at the scene.Īt this point, there are so many rumors going around online I don't see how it would harm anything to provide a few more details to the public. We don't need tons of detail, but the picture, sketches, and audio have likely done more damage than good. If BG showed signs of a particular fetish, took something from them, or used a unique phrase, LE needs to tell people. I'm sorry, it's not really about protecting the girls at this point, it's about finding a murderer before he strikes again. I totally understand that many of them have children and this is extremely emotional, but I wonder about their objectivity.

To me there's a difference between holding back details like Ives did and the wording some of the other people used. Doubtful but I can hope.Ģ) LE's overly focused on protecting the girls' innocents/view the girls personally, rather than objectively as victims. I know the FBI profilers don't do much with active cases but I really hope they're getting involved and ISP is finally listening.

Tell us why old sketch guy is no long important and why the guy is the focus now. They need to start being more honest with the public if they want tips. The lack of explanation for why old sketch guy is no longer of interest seems really strange. local vs outsider/older vs younger guy/etc.) and they're not looking at the evidence objectively. I think a few people got it in their heads who did this (i.e. The way all the high ups left the room before the new sketch was unveiled really bothered me. However, shit happens and they need to accept it happened and treat it professionally. I totally get that, I've lived near a few brutal murders/missing persons cases and it's extremely unsettling when that happens in a small town. Two things stood out for me in the podcast:ġ) No one in Delphi/Indiana ISP can wrap their minds around a horrible murder like this happening in there. However the locals/state are still incharge and I think their egos/emotions are getting in the way. I know the FBI has a unit that looks for patterns and given their involved from the 13th on, I'd bet they're still heavily involved in profiling. At first, I thought maybe BG just didn't say much but when Ives said there were three distinct signatures at the scene, it really made me think those could be major clues to his identity. They go on to give examples of times LE released a murderer's handwriting or published something that helped family members turn the person in. But had the Wichita police released some of the BTK sketches, crime scene descriptions, and other communications, it is quite possible someone within Dennis Rader's workplace, at his church, in his social circle, or even at home might have recognized his handiwork or at least had enough of a suspicion to contact authorities. Police investigators are understandably reluctant to give out case details known only to the offender. I just started reading Mindhunters and this passage from the updated version really struck me in light of that quote from Ives: I haven't followed that many cases closely but I can't think of any others, even those involving minors, when a basic cause of death wasn't released. I completely understand keeping some of what happened quiet, but their obsession with secrecy seems odd by the standards of other cases. I'm beginning to think the biggest problem with this case is that it's being handled with kid gloves by LE because it happened in a 'small town.' They're trying to protect the town/families but in reality they're withholding potentially useful information. ◦ Your account must be at least a week old to post a new thread. ◦ No images of BG that deviate from official images. Who is BG and DN? View list of acronyms here. Official Indiana State Police Investigation Page Your account must be more than 6 hours old to comment and a week old to make your first post.

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